"Men have called me mad, but the question is not yet settled, whether madness is or is not the loftiest intelligence--whether much that is glorious--whether all that is profound--does not spring from disease of thought--from moods of mind exalted at the expense of the general intellect. Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night" - Edgar Allen Poe
Consider this quote and compare it to Clarisse's compulsory visits to the psychiatrist: "They make me go. He says I'm a regular onion! I keep him busy peeling away the layers" (22)
How is sanity measured? What if you are the sane in an insane world?
Respond in a creative way. Don't given me formula, give me depth.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Friday, February 8, 2008
451 -" And questions give us no rest" Here are a few to ponder while reading Class discussion - 2/8
1. What does the salamander and phoenix symbolize? How do they work together?
2. “I’m seventeen and I’m crazy” (7). What allows Clarisse to give this blunt explanation? Are the traces of her ideas just a phase? What does it say about her character?
3.Why does Guy reference a power failure as an hour of rediscovery? (suspension of efficiency/ technology – allows a rediscovery of humanness)
4. Clarisse states, “You answer right off. You never stop to think what I’ve asked you.” Also, Guy admits that he wasn’t certain about knowing there was dew on the grass: “He hadn’t looked for a long time ” (9). How does this statement represent adult complacency?
5.What do the large advertisements tell the reader about the current society? (9)
6. On page ten, Guy recalls a night a year ago when he met an old man in the park and, “they had talked.” Explain the significance.
7. On page 11, He describes Clarisse as an “immense figure” and said, “what a shadow she threw on the wall with her slender body.” What does the physical description of her size suggest?
8. What is the underlying statement Bradbury makes by having men who were called to a suicide not be doctors?
9. What is the significance of juxtaposing the meeting of Clarisse with the suicide attempt of Guy’s wife?
10. Snake imagery is prevalent on the first few pages (salamander/ black cobra 14/great python 3) WHY?
11. “I never sleep cause sleep is the cousin of death.” How does this thought relate to Guy taking a sleeping lozenge? (Contrasting thoughts)
12. Why does he talk about the rain not being felt by Mildred and then return to it through counting the drops? (17)
More quotes
“This is the age of the disposable tissue. Blow. Wad. Flush.” 17 Connotation of disposable - throwaway, not reusable.
“Strangers come and violate you.” (So do firemen) This statement is foreshadowing
Bradbury’s purpose.
“He felt that the stars had been pulverized by the sound of the black jets and that in the morning the earth would be covered with their dust like a strange snow.” 14 – Foreshadowing too!
2. “I’m seventeen and I’m crazy” (7). What allows Clarisse to give this blunt explanation? Are the traces of her ideas just a phase? What does it say about her character?
3.Why does Guy reference a power failure as an hour of rediscovery? (suspension of efficiency/ technology – allows a rediscovery of humanness)
4. Clarisse states, “You answer right off. You never stop to think what I’ve asked you.” Also, Guy admits that he wasn’t certain about knowing there was dew on the grass: “He hadn’t looked for a long time ” (9). How does this statement represent adult complacency?
5.What do the large advertisements tell the reader about the current society? (9)
6. On page ten, Guy recalls a night a year ago when he met an old man in the park and, “they had talked.” Explain the significance.
7. On page 11, He describes Clarisse as an “immense figure” and said, “what a shadow she threw on the wall with her slender body.” What does the physical description of her size suggest?
8. What is the underlying statement Bradbury makes by having men who were called to a suicide not be doctors?
9. What is the significance of juxtaposing the meeting of Clarisse with the suicide attempt of Guy’s wife?
10. Snake imagery is prevalent on the first few pages (salamander/ black cobra 14/great python 3) WHY?
11. “I never sleep cause sleep is the cousin of death.” How does this thought relate to Guy taking a sleeping lozenge? (Contrasting thoughts)
12. Why does he talk about the rain not being felt by Mildred and then return to it through counting the drops? (17)
More quotes
“This is the age of the disposable tissue. Blow. Wad. Flush.” 17 Connotation of disposable - throwaway, not reusable.
“Strangers come and violate you.” (So do firemen) This statement is foreshadowing
Bradbury’s purpose.
“He felt that the stars had been pulverized by the sound of the black jets and that in the morning the earth would be covered with their dust like a strange snow.” 14 – Foreshadowing too!
Aristotle in your words
“All humans by nature desire to know.”
Do you agree or not? Explsin why in a formal paragraph....
I agree…
All humans, due to the human condition, are eager to find answers to their questions.
The more answers we get, the more questions that come along with them.
Everyone works to find truth, even if it is gossip in the hall.
Our desire to grow is what allows us to be as advanced as we are. All of our technology comes as a result of our desire to know. This desire also has a negative impact. Our desire to know makes us discover some things we did not wish to know.
A person can’t just learn by reading something in a book, they have to question what they are reading. If a person does not search for knowledge, they cannot learn any more than what they already know.
People learn more when they are questioned, they are more willing to accept knowledge in this scenario.
If someone disagrees with you, it forces you to see their perspective and make you back up your answer even more or debate in your head whether your original answer is correct. With debate and argument, one learns more about different views taken by different people as well as the truly correct answer.
To grow is to know.
It’s our desire to figure out our flaws so we can grow as individuals rather than be clouded.
Questioning is a way of life, it makes us who we are.
I disagree…
On some level because winning gives people a feeling of accomplishment.
In a man’s quest for knowledge, he won’t want to be proven wrong. Man prefers dignity over truth.
Students in school take tests everyday. Students aren’t worried about getting to the truth but are worried about getting a good grade.
Do you agree or not? Explsin why in a formal paragraph....
I agree…
All humans, due to the human condition, are eager to find answers to their questions.
The more answers we get, the more questions that come along with them.
Everyone works to find truth, even if it is gossip in the hall.
Our desire to grow is what allows us to be as advanced as we are. All of our technology comes as a result of our desire to know. This desire also has a negative impact. Our desire to know makes us discover some things we did not wish to know.
A person can’t just learn by reading something in a book, they have to question what they are reading. If a person does not search for knowledge, they cannot learn any more than what they already know.
People learn more when they are questioned, they are more willing to accept knowledge in this scenario.
If someone disagrees with you, it forces you to see their perspective and make you back up your answer even more or debate in your head whether your original answer is correct. With debate and argument, one learns more about different views taken by different people as well as the truly correct answer.
To grow is to know.
It’s our desire to figure out our flaws so we can grow as individuals rather than be clouded.
Questioning is a way of life, it makes us who we are.
I disagree…
On some level because winning gives people a feeling of accomplishment.
In a man’s quest for knowledge, he won’t want to be proven wrong. Man prefers dignity over truth.
Students in school take tests everyday. Students aren’t worried about getting to the truth but are worried about getting a good grade.
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